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Governor Chafee: Declare a State of Political Emergency


EDITOR’S NOTE: This piece was originally submitted on Friday, but because of the blizzard and the ensuing muck from it, I wasn’t able to edit and post it until today. I apologize for the error. – Stephen Greenwell.

A massive snowstorm is heading toward the Ocean State. Superstorm Sandy was bad enough, but now the Northeast is taking another battering. Governor Lincoln Chafee has declared a state of emergency in Rhode Island, telling residents to stay off the roads and stay in their homes.

Mother Nature's wrath is falling white and cold across the Northeast, but a worse disaster has descended on the New England states, one worse than intolerant Puritanism or even state-sponsored statism. The fiscal crisis of underfunded and unpaid pension obligations weigh heavily on voters and state representatives, worse than a superstorm, which will not only demolish houses but undo the legacies and savings of hard-working families, both those who worked in the public as well as the private sectors.

General Treasurer Gina Raimondo has taken what precautions she can to staunch the misery of massive cuts, yet the tsunami of debt roars ever more over Rhode Island.

Beyond the fiscal fears, the demagoguery of the Democratic Party has been an unmitigated and unnatural disaster for Rhode Island. For 70 years, Democrats have dominated the state legislature, where their torrential cascade of debt, deficits and bankrupting taxes and regulations have driven away thousands of Rhode Island residents.

Only in 1983, which some have termed "The Great Fiasco," did some semblance of two-party rule return to the state, when Republicans won an unprecedented 23 seats in the General Assembly.

Today, the legislature remains dominated by the unprecedented disaster of Democratic rule. The real "fiasco," of course, has been the frightening trend of one-party partisanship (if such a dynamic is possible) in Providence, one that has unleashed an unearthly flurry of anti-growth polices.

Rhode Island has one of the worst business climates, replete with thundering regulations, hurricane-like taxes, and a snowstorm of spending which has blanketed the state in unrelenting debt. Instead of a field of powdery, gentle white, there is a thrashing sea of red ink washing along the shores and covering not just the homes, but the future of the state and its residents.

The "Red Sea of Debt" is so great that the city of Providence may have to seek the intervention of Divine Providence to part present bondholders and taxpayers (what few that remain) from the threatened bankruptcy drowning everything.

Gov. Chafee must declare another state of emergency, one of fiscal and political proportions, a formerly subtle disaster that is now erupting across the state, New England, and is even threatening larger states like Illinois and California.

Forget about global warming, and forget about gay marriage. The biggest crisis afflicting the state of Rhode Island is the ungodly dominance of the tax-and-spendthrift Democratic Party. However, it does not necessarily take an "Act of God" to end this heinous, disastrous dominance. In declaring a state of emergency, Gov. Chafee and supporters can enact the following reforms:

1. Pull the Master Lever once and for all. Get rid of this petty polling practice that permits one party to dominate every statewide office with one vote. Every resident in Rhode Island deserves to choose individually and selectively who will represent them at the city, the state, or even the national level. Not since the Gilded Age of political machines and politicized corruption have such hollow tactics existed. Boss Tweed of Tammany Hall would sprinkle perfume on the ballots that he wanted cast, and others have attributed the exhortation to him about tallying ballots: "It's not the number of votes that counts, but vote counters." He also quipped: "As long as I count the voters, what are you going to do about it?" The voters should do something all right, and end the Master Lever.

2. Initiate open primaries. Many parties should have the opportunity to participate in Rhode Island politics. Why should party have all the fun, partying on the taxpayer's dime? Republicans can coalesce with libertarians, or Democrats and Republicans who agree on anything can form their own party. More choices, more freedom, more power to the people.

3. Enact a Citizens' Commission to draw the boundaries for state legislative and Congressional representation. Instead of permitting the state legislature to gerrymander local and and statewide seats, why not permit a select group of dedicated Rhode Islanders to draw up the districts. Instead of creating safe districts for state senators and assembly members, citizens would only take into account the geographical or at least the basic cultural similarities between and within cities.

Gov. Chafee, it's time to declare another state of emergency: a fiscal and political crisis. The Capital city of Providence is going bankrupt, and aside from an "Act of Providence", the well-being of your state requires well-meaning reforms which will return the power of representation to the people instead of the politicians. End the Master Lever, open up the primaries, and let the citizens design their constituencies. These reforms will expand choice and limit the scope of government in the lives and livelihood of Rhode Islanders.  

Ted Geisel

12:01 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

This guy again? He is not a local voice.

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Joseph Hutnak

12:10 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Ted:
Arthur is speaking to issues local to Rhode Island, as other Editors have previously pointed out.
Thanks for reading.

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Renee Cwiek

12:12 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

I think he's obsessed with RI. It's sad really.

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Renee Cwiek

12:16 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

He's still not a local voice. He's a voice from the other side of the country posting in the local voice section. Sorry, I just don't agree with letting this fall under local voices.

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Ted Geisel

12:20 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Arthur:
I understand that he is speaking to issues local to RI. No argument there. I just disagree that he is in any way, shape or form... a local voice.

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Tiverton Dad

12:21 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

I agree, but the Patch is all about arguing, and they don't care who starts it.

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Renee Cwiek

12:31 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Unfortunately, I think it's become all about how many page views they get, and they've stopped caring how they get them. Your real local voices are telling your editors that this is a joke. Maybe you'll start to listen.

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Maria Cabral

1:50 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Arthur Christopher Schaper is called a "Local Voice" by the Patchmeisters, but he is neither local in terms of geography nor cultural concinnity. Unfortunately for all of us here in Rhode Island, Arthur Christopher seems to have decided that the role of meddlesome outsider suits his little self to a tee.

If Arthur Christopher were here in Rhode Island helping us dig out, he'd be welcome to stay. Instead, it's as though all of us are out there shoveling our walks and trying to do our work and make the best of it, while Little Lord Schaper stands on his opposite sidewalk telling us that we're doing the job all wrong ("You missed a spot! You missed a spot!") and offering suggestions for how he could do the job better ("Just hire someone like my mom does! It's MUCH easier! Don't you guys get it?").

Arthur Christopher: Please feel free to scurry back into your little warm room in Torrance, crawl under your famous-baseball-player covers, and leave us alone. One set of annoying gale-force winds per week is enough.


P.S. Please make our collective day here in Rhode Island and confirm that you are somehow related to the Schaper family that was responsible for making Cooties:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_H._Schaper

Please Cootie Man...please please please let us know. We're all tired and sore from doing real work and we could use the laugh.

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Jack Baillargeron

2:01 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Maria@; What can you say? That was a good one lol.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

3:16 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Yes, indeed!

It's "this guy" again.

I want to see a two-party tussle in many states, including my own in CA!

I want to spread the word on free markets, free people, and free discourse.

The history of Rhode Island, from Roger Williams to the present day, has intrigued me greatly.

I was impressed that at least one state was taking on massive pension reform, and perhaps CA could learn something.

No, I am not a local voice, but I do appreciate the forum.

Thanks again!

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

3:17 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Maria Cabral wrote:

"Arthur Christopher: Please feel free to scurry back into your little warm room in Torrance, crawl under your famous-baseball-player covers, and leave us alone. One set of annoying gale-force winds per week is enough."

You are funny, Maria!

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

4:11 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Renee Cweik:

"I think he's obsessed with RI. It's sad really."

Your assessment is sad. Do you need a cup of hot cocoa?

HA HA!

Have a sense of humor!

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Renee Cwiek

4:16 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Rhode Islander's drink D & D. Not cocoa.

I have a sense of humor. I thought Maria's post was very funny!

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Joe Sousa

7:07 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

A lot of these ideas make sense . The problems that plague this State go deep, and are caused by the electors as well . True change will come when the State is in Federal Bankruptcy Court . The USS. RI. is going down . Many have jumped ship already taking their wealth and experience with them . The Job creators see the writing on the wall . Just moving to Mass. save the average business 18% right away . " Help wanted" , not in RI.

NK Parent

12:27 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

I agree with everyone else. This guy is in no way a "local voice" and should not be included in this section. He lives on the other side of the country.

I have no problem with The Patch including him here but it seems incredibly disingenuous to make it seem like he's a local person.

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Steve Sironen

12:51 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Who cares if he is local or not? He brings a good point to the table. The days of being a solid rep., or solid dem are over. The next generation of voters are here. They are young, and diverse. They are eager. They are the most informed generation. They will agree, almost assuredly, with these sentiments. Stop being closed minded, and so negative. I for one would like to see better district based voting, and seats open to citizens. Not just open to the fattest wallet.

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Ted Geisel

1:10 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

I only care because the Patch puts him under the banner "Local Voices". Change that to "National Blogger" and I don't have a problem with it.

The next generation of voters are here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257715/Study-shows-college-students-think-theyre-special--read-write-barely-study.html They're special alright.

Many of them can't be bothered with voting either. http://blogs.wpri.com/2012/11/06/electorate/

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

3:09 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Thanks, Steve!

I appreciate your feedback!

Jack Baillargeron

1:42 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

It appears that since he got such a massive response to his last article on gay marriage; he has decided that he found a State that will not let him be one sided on anything lol.

Maybe he gets paid for number of responces from some company. Who knows? lol

In the end it is a choice to respond or not and the band width he takes up is nothing in the scheme of the internet lol.

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Jack Baillargeron

1:47 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

On another note, he is correct on the State of the State. Being an embarrment because of our General Assemblies DEM rule has been a noose around our neck for a lifetime for some people. Just saying.

Also it is kinda ironic to live in a State where there is only one party to blame for every single problem the State creates if you have conservative leanings lol.

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Joseph Hutnak

2:50 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

We invite anyone to start their own blog on local issues. Here's the link: http://bristol-warren.patch.com/blog/apply
Thanks for reading.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

3:10 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Joseph:

Thanks again for your warm welcome!

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Maria Cabral

5:55 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

-- We invite anyone to start their own blog on local issues.

I volunteer to write a weekly humor blog, but ONLY on the condition that you put "California Voices" above my picture.

For my first column, I'll write about:

1. Rigged voting machines in California.

2. Rigged primaries in the State of California.

3. Gerrymandering in local California election districts.

People normally roll in the aisles about that stuff, particularly when, as an outsider/non-voter/non-taxpayer I deliver my material while putting my little fist on one hip and waggling my other index finger at them while I point out all the mistakes they're making. The blinking "California Voices" sign over my head while I do this will be a comedic coup de grâce.

In case people don't quite cotton to my approach to humor, I'll line up two California Patch editors to tell everyone that while I'm not a "truly hyper-local voice", I am in fact "speaking to issues local to California" and that I might "have an interest or opinion on things going on" in California.

The cosmic joke, of course, is that I don't know stink about California.

I tell ya, it'll be hilarious.
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Oh. Wait. Maybe this kind of comedy has already been done. Somewhere. Close to here. Right around here. I.e., All hyper-local-like. Oh, wait. Crud.
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Thank you. Thank you. You're very kind. Thank you. I'm here all week. Please remember to tip your waitress.

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Renee Cwiek

6:01 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

See...Maria is funny! I do have a sense of humor!

Seriously...deleting my brown nosing post yet a second time is just ridiculous. Does it offend in some way?

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Joseph Hutnak

6:05 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Renee:
We ask that comments relate to the topic at hand.
Thanks!

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Renee Cwiek

6:08 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

oh please...Half the Patch comments would need to be deleted if that was the case.

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Joseph Hutnak

6:11 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

I can't speak to other comments, but you asked why a previous comment of yours was removed. That's why.
Thanks again for reading and adding your thoughts.

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Renee Cwiek

6:16 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

There are several on this page alone.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

8:27 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Maria Cabral wrote:

"For my first column, I'll write about:

1. Rigged voting machines in California.

Answer -- the word is still out on that -- one colleague of mine suggested that college students investigate this possible phenomenon

"2. Rigged primaries in the State of California."

We have OPEN primaries because of a voter initiative. RI has the same thing, or what?

"3. Gerrymandering in local California election districts."

NOT ANYMORE -- A Citizens Commission just drew all the state and federal districts. Some notorious incumbents were just pushed out of office.

RI should enact the same reforms.

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Naome Lixes

9:06 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

This poster, and others like him are the antithesis of what makes the Patch great.

It's not as if there aren't plenty of outlets for paid conservative bloggers, elsewhere.

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Maria Cabral

1:55 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

I live on Hope Street in Lotsirb, Bulgaria. I am a LOCAL VOICE, so please do make joy-covered pardons for my lapses in your language.

I am here spreading some big ideas without small boundaries to embiggen all the local Rhode Island minds. I am like a hyper-local comment person too also.

But before I am continuing on this mule-journey, I need to address some shrieks made above by that other famous local voice, Arthur Chistopher Schaper.

Arthur Christopher wrote:

-- Answer -- the word is still out on that -- one colleague of mine suggested that
-- college students investigate this possible phenomenon

...and...

-- We have OPEN primaries because of a voter initiative. RI has the same thing, or
-- what?

...and...

-- NOT ANYMORE -- A Citizens Commission just drew all the state and federal
-- districts. Some notorious incumbents were just pushed out of office.

Arthur Christopher, did you really think I was seriousing around when I said I was going to write an article manifesto on those 3 topics you shrieked yourself about? And if you did mind me seriously, didn't you see where I said this would be first article in "weekly humor blog"? But you solemnly and seriously made some screaming and responding to it anyway?

Ooofah.*

As we say in Lotsirb, please try to stay with the program, bucko.

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* "Ooofah", translated from the Bulgarian, means approximately, "Jeez howdy-do. Is this 'local voice' boy tone deaf, or what?"

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Maria Cabral

3:49 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

-- Maria..thank you for the warm remarks
--http://www.historyasfrontpagenews.com/uploads/1/1/2/2/11224661/9039144_orig.jpg?268

It's cool that you grew your hair longer for that photo. Looks good!

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Naome Lixes

5:35 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

It's not as if this same poster hasn't generated similar opprobrium in other Patches,
over the same objections. It's carpetblogging, and it's the equivalent of SPAM.

Just look at the response cycle - it's not something the majority asked for, is it?

Stephen Greenwell

4:24 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Hi folks, since I'm the one who originally approved this post... There isn't really a way for me to change the header and distinguish from truly hyper-local voices, and those who might not be in Rhode Island or New England, but who have an interest or opinion on things going on here.

Generally, at least for my own site, I err on the side of publishing something if I see any possible value in it, as opposed to be incredibly strict on the boundary issue. (Then again, I'm running Gansett-SK, and I'm originally from Chariho, so blurred boundaries are something I'm quite familiar and comfortable with...)

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Just Another Taxpayer

6:26 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Chariho and SK is a lot different from California and RI. Please, do not assume all your readers are stupid or at the very least don't know their geography.

Arthur Christopher Schaper

4:54 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Stephen:

Thanks again! I look forward to contributing more from the future.

Point of fact, what I learn about RI I hope to make use of in CA, too.

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Jay Browne

12:00 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Sure go ahead, there are so many twits in CA they won't notice one more....

bimbels

6:01 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

I think the answer is to ignore Arthur.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

8:24 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Bimbels:

That is the soundest statement on your part.

Thanks for sharing.

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Jay Browne

12:09 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Problem is that ignoring him presumes that being ignored will cause him to go away. Unfortunately, such a theory credits him with more intelligence than he's shown so far...

Leave RI

6:41 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

has anyone seen my cufflinks?

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Leave RI

8:48 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Give'm back Jack...I was judging a taffy pulling contest in Bucks County, PA tomorrow!

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Jack Baillargeron

10:52 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Turns out they are "Marvin The Martian" Cuff Links so they are mine. Sorry senior moment lol

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Jack Baillargeron

10:53 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Can let you borrow my "Beanie and Cecil" ones lol

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Jack Baillargeron

10:57 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Oh bring some taffy back, if you put olive oil on it it won't keep pulling your dentures out I am told lol.

Still Hope

7:14 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Discrediting the author because of his location is pretty naive. I would argue that he is a bigger part of the community than most people in my city (most of which can't even name our governor).

Now if you would like to challenge the author's content, you might have a greater contribution to the discussion. Obvious troll is obvious.

The author is hellbent on disparaging the Democratic Party and continuing the polarization of ideas that has afflicted our government for the last two decades. Truth is, both major parties have inherent flaws in their ultimate ideals. What has made the system work for so long is the natural need for compromise and the human element of being able to listen to new ideas. However, since the introduction of the interwebs, everybody thinks that they are experts in everything and they become pretty close-minded to "inferior" suggestions. 10 minutes on wikipedia now gives you the right to deem everyone else an idiot.

The current government is under the 24/7 watch of the American people. Every move a politician makes, every whisper is going to be scrutinized by these internet experts. This makes the notion of compromise to be a political poison.

The author has done his homework sure enough, but he stops short of making sense. Most of the RI Governors have been Republicans(the leaders that got us here). Gina Raimondo is a Dem, yet her "unprecedented overhaul" of union pensions would suggest otherwise.

More to say but I've been Tolstoy'd

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Jay Browne

12:43 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Nah,,,, I've yet to see any legitimate comparison between the parties. One is trying to eradicate the social safety nets that people have paid for their entire lifetime - and, institute a big government state agenda, that intrudes on what a person does with their own body - while the other party is actually trying to address the very real problems facing the country (you know, what the voters actually elected them to do)...

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

11:21 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Jay Browne:

"One is trying to eradicate the social safety nets that people have paid for their entire lifetime."

If you are speaking of the Democratic Party leaders, then you are right. To do nothing about entitlements will mean that there will be nothing left for future recipients.

"institute a big government state agenda, that intrudes on what a person does with their own body
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The Dems' healthcare mandate, Obama-WaxmanCare, tells you that you must purchase health insurance, that religious institutions must disregard their convictions and offer certain provisions with their health care plans. That's quite intrusive, in my opinion.

"while the other party is actually trying to address the very real problems facing the country (you know, what the voters actually elected them to do)..."

That party is not the Democratic Party: High unemployment (double for minorities) - higher taxes, a growing welfare-warfare state -- President Obama has done nothing to reduce the debts, the annual deficits, and the dysfunctional entitlement programs, the real source of fiscal crises in this country.

Arthur Christopher Schaper

8:24 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

"The author has done his homework sure enough, but he stops short of making sense".

How did I not make sense?

"Most of the RI Governors have been Republicans(the leaders that got us here). Gina Raimondo is a Dem, yet her "unprecedented overhaul" of union pensions would suggest otherwise."

I do assent that John Chafee made a poor choice to endorse an income tax and collective bargaining rights.

Gina Raimondo acting like a Republican - a novel statement -- in a way, I could not agree more!

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mike westman

6:44 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

yet she does not carry the right wing baggage of idiotic social and cultural issues that make them the political dinosaurs that they are......win win

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Jay Browne

12:28 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Oh, that's what it all about, eh? "Taxes!" Class warfare? Rich vs poor? Another apparent Sore Loser man... or, are you still ticked that the Chafees (father & son) bucked their "idiot" party, and, refused to be "idiots"...

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Just Another Taxpayer

12:51 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Raimondo will never receive the Democratic Party's nomination because she will lose in the primary.

Naome Lixes

9:07 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Posts like this are the online equivalent of outside money influencing elections.

Don't go away mad, ACS - just go away.

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Manifold Witness

1:13 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Oh. Now we get it. Please stay, ACS, we could use some outside influences. The unions are way too influential here. (Naome likes that and wants it to stay that way.) The political corruption has run amok and the government is broken and way too expensive, but those of the "Naome" ilk don't want the rest of the state to know that anything's wrong here.

The Governor declared a "State of Emergency". But when a reporter asked him what that meant he had to turn and ask his staff. They dressed him up, gave him a few phrases ("it was a Big Storm") to memorize, and then trotted him out for the "Big Winter Storm", but he had not really gained any substantive knowledge about how to run a state and they forgot to tell him what "state of emergency" meant. Dang. Well, trial and error....next time they'll know.

Yeah. RI could use some outside influences. Please.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

2:38 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Manifold Witness:

You are the "Man"!

Can I get a witness!

This is what it's all about.

Unions are way too influential! They had their time, now they are past their prime, and they are primed to bankrupt Rhode Island -- and California.

But I say "No!' to that.

Thanks again for your support.

NK_Voter

12:07 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

I have to agree with Still Hope. Ideas have no boundaries--only the small minded do. Note that many of the small try to limit free speech--what other of your freedoms are they willing to sacrifice for the sake of their ideology?

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Maria Cabral

1:29 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

-- Note that many of the small try to limit free speech

No one is trying to limit free speech. We are only trying to get the speech that is presented here on Patch properly labeled so that we might have an accurate context in which to form our conclusions. A voice from California is not "local" to Rhode Island by any stretch of the imagination. To label it otherwise is misleading at best.

If you do not understand this, please say so and I will try to do a better job of explaining myself.

If you do understand it, but do not agree, please stop calling everyone who does "small minded".

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

2:39 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Maria:

I would offer you a cup of hot cocoa, but I am not yet in the area. I hope I can visit Rhode Island soon. Meet with Travis Rowley and the RI GOP -- they so not have to be small force stopping big corruption.

Tiverton Dad

12:20 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Where can I buy a cheeseburger in a can?

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Jack Baillargeron

12:30 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

At "Petco", in the canned dog food aisle, they also have beef stew and filet mignon. lol

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Renee Cwiek

12:42 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

I bet the filet mignon is yummy.

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Leave RI

1:39 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

What??? Hey I like cheeseburgers..I thought you said Jack gave you the creeps.

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Jack Baillargeron

2:21 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Huskies love the Fillet, then again I have never seen them not love anything lol.

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Jack Baillargeron

2:22 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Leave@ I heard creepy is the new cool lol

Renee Cwiek

12:29 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Look at all of these off topic posts. TSK TSK!!!! Where's the delete button when you need it? oh wait...only my posts seem to get deleted. huh... interesting.

Please stay on topic people.

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Jack Baillargeron

2:23 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Not off topic technicly Renne, just talking about the trials and tribulation in RI versus CA. lol

Renee Cwiek

12:45 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Where's Jim when you need him? The real issue right now is the tolls. Please all just let's focus on that.

You know about the tolls, right Arthur? What's your opinion on that?

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Just Another Taxpayer

12:52 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Arthur please note that Renee is talking about tolls and not trolls.

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Jack Baillargeron

2:25 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Howevet JAT, it could be said that the trolls in the STate House are trolling for tolls.
;-}

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

2:43 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Renee:

I have read that they charge people to go to the beach in Rhode Island -- What?!

Even in California, we can go to the beach for free!

The only "trolls" are the modern liberal elites who bleed businesses and individuals dry with high taxes and excessive regulation.

It's time for the GOP to get their "Billy Goats Gruff" tough on, and push the trolls off the bridge.

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Renee Cwiek

2:46 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Not all beaches charge, and most beaches allow residents of that particular town in for free.

But no...I wasn't referring to the beaches. Thanks for answering though.

Arthur Christopher Schaper

2:41 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

To the citizens of Rhode Island

Contact Bill Bloomfield:

billbloomfieldind@gmail.com

He helped spearhead the Open Primaries and Citizens Redistricting Reform here in California. He can help do the same in Rhode Island.

He nearly took down Henry "Waxman the Taxman" -- I have been following Waxman around, keeping him on his toes.

Please visit --- waxmanwatch.blogspot.com -- for more information.

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Leave RI

2:52 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

-- I have been following Waxman around, keeping him on his toes."
.....you missed one

http://my.greasy.com/host/images/42394556.jpg

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mike westman

7:27 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Leave...you need to get out more

Naome Lixes

9:40 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

So, am I the only one that thinks this clown spends entirely too much time telling people who live elsewhere what to do? While it's true that good ideas travel well,
it's a stretch to consider a resident of California as local.

It's also a suspension of disbelief to consider the voluminous posting as a voice.
It's more like background noise, designed to interrupt serious conversation.

You know, between people that actually live near the issues at hand?

I find it most telling that there aren't any liberal voices wading in telling locals
what to do - but there's no shortage of Conservatives that have a Golden Plate that only they can read to us, if we'll just give them a minute.

I slammed enough doors in their faces on Saturday mornings to get this across.
They're no more legitimate in their convictions than Scientologists, just better
organized and relentless in promoting their agenda. That's arrogance, right?

Or is it only arrogance when it comes from the Left?

Arthur Christopher Schaper
2:28 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

There is no credible evidence which suggests that people are born gay. It is a choice of behavior, and thus it is both cruel and disturbing to teach people that they are "born that way."

Homosexual conduct damages the body, mind, and spirit of a person. Doctors, epidemiologists, and even psychological reports and historical commentaries can attest to the deviance, dysfunction, and danger inherent in the "gay lifestyle".

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Naome Lixes

9:44 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Seriously, why are we tolerating someone so intolerant?

Click on Arthur's name and see all the postings he chooses to submit.
This is attempt to throw stones, not to build houses.

The good people of Michigan have the same gut response I do to carpetblogging.

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Naome Lixes

9:48 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

In Michigan (the Mt. Pleasant Patch) the following response was generated, and pretty well states my sentiments...

Robert Kelly

4:14 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

OK, your writing is not an atrocity, but it is atrocious. With an entire column devoted to your view of reality, flaws have been pointed out by a number of people, so you continually try to restate your opinion. A writer worthy of a mass media outlet should not need never-ending rephrasing to try to persuade the audience. Go back to journalism school and learn the value of expressing your ideas clearly, concisely, and with impact. You are not hitting it yet.

This guy is attempting to earn his Bona Fides on our time, without spending a dime.
It's a misuse of the resource and does not fit the local model, in any way.

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Leave RI

10:07 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

You know as much to the "right" I "post" to be..he is the embarrassing part..much like our own Steven Brown is to the "left"..ACS is just "wrong"...this thread may have to resort to the Patch-win theory.

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Leave RI

10:12 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

P.S.
sorry Ed's but the only thing missing from this guy is the red rubber nose and big shoes

katherine

10:19 am on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Mr. Schaper...you are making the mistake of thinking Rhode Island wants some fresh ideas that may turn things around. NO NO NO! They like things just the way they are. They are happy to let their politicians run over them with a mac truck. They just dust themselves off and ask for more. Apparently if you leave Rhode Island the door slams shut behind you and you are not allowed back in. Which, of course, is a blessing.

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Naome Lixes

3:28 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

katherine
9:26 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I am not disappointed. I don't care what happens in Rhode Island. You keep electing the same people. How is it going over there?

katherine
10:06 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
You are just mad because I was smart enough to get the heck out of there. In a deep red state with a very low unemployment rate. Paradise:)

katherine
12:13 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
I'm not wasting anyone's time. I only comment on national things. I do still live in this country and I have a right to voice my opinion.

You voted with your feet, katherine. You're no more relevant here than the OP.

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Naome Lixes

3:29 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Don't let your blessing hit you on your way out, then.

Buh-bye.

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Leave RI

3:56 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

"You voted with your feet, katherine. You're no more relevant here than the OP."
... What's wrong with that?..well it is difficult
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zH35WO_toVg/S87OR9ahbpI/AAAAAAAAAUc/3DoMR5V9Plw/s1600/voting+with+your+feet.jpg

katherine

4:31 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Once again naome proves my point.

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Maria Cabral

5:19 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Please, Katherine, tell us the state in which you now live. It would be fun to compare and contrast.

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katherine

6:34 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

A state where these are the statistics. Debt to GDP: 0.7%. Rhode Island. 4.2%.
Unfunded pension liability: 0.3%. Rhode Island 8.8%
Debt + pension liability 1.0%. Rhode Island. 8.8%
A 4% unemployment rate. What's yours?

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Leave RI

7:26 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Ouch..where did you get those #'s katherine. I found the Dept of Labor site. How did the debt to GDP breakdown?

katherine

7:36 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

The statistics come from an article in Barron's about the best and worst states. There was a chart with each state listed. Don't know how they broke down.

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Jack Baillargeron

7:49 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Surprised you gave away your State finally there Kat ;-}.

It is a great State though.

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katherine

8:32 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Thanks for not ratting me out Jack. If they are that interested they can look it up.

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Jack Baillargeron

8:41 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Part of my Ancestral Home is North of you. I will put a great quote up when it gets figured out lol.

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Leave RI

8:57 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Got it..my daughter and son and law lived there for 3 yrs for a pharmaceutical company. She's moved to MA with the same company in a lab. She's a micro biologist.

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katherine

9:14 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Leave ri...it's a great place, but don't tell anyone:)

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Leave RI

9:57 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

There's a famous actress on a series who is from one of the eastern prominent cities.

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Maria Cabral

10:29 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

So, Katherine, South Dakota, eh?

Spend a week in South Dakota! On Monday, see Mount Rushmore! On Tuesday, see Mount Rushmore again! On Wednesday, visit the gift shop at Mount Rushmore! And on Thursday, relive your first experience, at Mount Rushmore!

Since you've lived there, Katherine, have you learned that cow pies are not made of beef? As a newly minted and TRUE and content South Dakotan, do you pick up all the free stuff at the State Fair? Do you go on down to the river and tell the other South Dakotans that it's almost like going to the ocean?

And, is the reason that you continue to hang around this neck of the woods, trolling on the Rhode Island Patches, because there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE TO DO IN SOUTH DAKOTA?

We wuz jus' wonderin', sugar.

<giggle>

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NK_Voter

1:36 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Nothing but class in your comments, Maria. Thanks for proving my earlier point about "small-minded" people.

Arthur Christopher Schaper

8:01 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Happy Valentine's Day, everyone!

Here's to more lovely times in Rhode Island.

No more sales tax!

Collective bargaining rights reforms!

RI can show the National GOP and the nation how it's done!

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Jack Baillargeron

8:26 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Sorry Authur; Well it may sound like a good thing, it is never going to happen ;-}.

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Jack Baillargeron

8:34 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

Should have added why.

2012 election Results

Senate 32 DEM 5 GOP 1 IND

House

69 DEM 6 GOP

Tired of NK antics

11:58 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

@Maria Cabral: South Dakota unemployment 4.4% Rhode Island unemployment 10.2%. SD population 833,500, RI population 1mil. Cost of living index with 100 being the mean, RI is 125 SD is 92. Population change 2010 to 2012: SD +2.4% RI -.02%. Home ownership rate: SD 68.7% RI 62.1%. People per square mile; RI 1018 SD 10.7 Winner by a knockout, South Dakota. But we have all those lovely beaches, right???

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Maria Cabral

8:07 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Tired of NK antics:

Those are some mighty impressive statistics and they sure do tell 100% of the story. In fact, those statistics are so impressive, I have to wonder why you haven't joined Katherine in relocating to SD.

Since your statistical recitation indicates there is no possible reason someone might want to stay in RI, I'll make a request for when you do move: Please try to handle it a little better than dear Katherine and resist the urge to disparage the state you've left behind. That would be rude and annoying.

Good luck to both of you.

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Tired of NK antics

8:49 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

@MC, then please fill us all in on the statistics that place Rhode Island above SD or any other state for that matter. Maybe it is the roads, tax structure, real estate value, high tech jobs, infrastructure, business climate, water quality, air quality, a true two-party government, the governor ....the beaches....its the beaches....oh and who can forget the Newport mansions and the innate welcoming manner of native Rhode Islanders.

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katherine

2:14 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Maria...I am not disparaging Rhode Island. Just the politicians who run the place. Rhode Island is a beautiful state that is being run into the ground by a few people. I decided that the situation would never change so I did what I thought was right for me. I decided not to do the same thing over and over and expect different results. To me, that is a completely rational thing to do. I don't want to go down with the ship.

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Naome Lixes

6:02 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

"@MC, then please fill us all in on the statistics that place Rhode Island above SD or any other state for that matter." This is a false equivalence.

Rhode Island covers a land mass of 1045 square miles, and is among the most densely populated states. South Dakota covers 75,885 sq. miles and is among the most sparsely populated states.

Rhode Island was here at the formation of the Republic.
South Dakota came along considerably later.

Rhode Island deals with a strained infrastructure that is not only among the oldest in the union, it is among the most heavily traveled as the I-95 corridor runs through
the capitol. Rush hour in South Dakota's busiest metroplex looks like this...

http://heckeranddecker.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/abandoned-parking-lot-01-cmp.jpg

The comparison is only accurate in that they're both American states.
Beyond that, it's a steaming pile of male bovine excreta.

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Tired of NK antics

6:26 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

@NL indices, statistics, medians and means are designed to permit comparisons between states and countries. You should know, you have used them before when it suited your purpose.

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Naome Lixes

6:57 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

"@NL indices, statistics, medians and means are designed to permit comparisons between states and countries." I call shenanigans.

Rhode Island is roughly the size of Faulk county, SD population 2365.
"People per square mile; RI 1018 SD 10.7."

You don't think that having a population density 95 times that of SD invalidates
the comparison? It's pretty clear that you're not serious in considering data.

These two states couldn't be more different and still be in the same country.

I still hold to the notion that the ONLY reason this clown gets any consideration
is the common viewpoint he holds with cranks. It's barely worthy of ridicule.

Note the 2005-2009 compilation data of State's GDP. Look who is #44 and #46?
Surprised to see who's more productive? The difference today - OIL.

It's not as if South Dakota, or any other energy producer just became more efficient in their state government - they cut services, gutted schools and got more revenue from selling off a finite resource.

They weren't better at State craft - the price of oil rose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP

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Tired of NK antics

7:39 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

So it is SD's fault they were blessed with a natural resource and have decided to take advantage of it...but NL you forget that RI has wonderful beaches, so its a "push"

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Naome Lixes

9:43 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

So it is SD's fault they were blessed with a natural resource and have decided to take advantage of it...but NL you forget that RI has wonderful beaches, so its a "push" - TNKA

I don't think that anyone in South Dakota's highest offices are crowing about
leaving the bottom of the BEA listings. They're busy, taking care of their own.

Point is, holding up an example like this as a comparison between a successful and a failed public policy leaves out most of the important details. As is so often the case when macroeconomics is discussed by us mere mortals...

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."
H. L. Mencken

Only a simpleton would claim that the current good fortune of a state that is among the least populated can offer workable solutions to one that is among the most
densely populated. But that's katherine, someone who CHOSE to leave.

Jack Baillargeron

4:02 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

I would say "Kat" in in a great place.

Here is wisdom beyond his years from one of the most famous from S. Dakota.

September 1, 1877 Crazy Horse then 37 years old.

"Upon suffering beyond suffering: the Red Nation shall rise again and it shall be a blessing for a sick world. A world filled with broken promises, selfishness and separations. A world longing for light again.

I see a time of Seven Generations when all the colors of mankind will gather under the Sacred Tree of Life and the whole Earth will become one circle again. In that day, there will be those among the Lakota who will carry knowledge and understanding of unity among all living things and the young white ones will come to those of my people and ask for this wisdom. I salute the light within your eyes where the whole Universe dwells.

For when you are at that center within you and I am that place within me, we shall be one." - Crazy Horse, Oglala Sioux Chief.

This statement was taken from Crazy Horse as he sat smoking the Sacred Pipe with Sitting Bull for the last time, four days before he was assassinated.

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Naome Lixes

7:03 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

And just how many Oglala or Lakota in Rhode Island, Jack?

The comparisons between a state that is 85% white, and mostly open space to Rhode Island and the challenges faced by a dense, diverse population are ridiculous. The fact that the poster in question is 1700 miles away and still disparaging Rhode Island illustrates the problem - they're not from around here.

FYI - Even this sparsely populated, well managed state has a higher poverty rate than Rhode Island - but so what, that's just the Indians - they're not real Americans anyway, right kate?

http://www.southdakota-demographics.com/
http://www.rhodeisland-demographics.com/

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Jack Baillargeron

11:37 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Way to miss the whole point of the post about a great place that produced a great man and ignore totally what he said about unitty. Geesh

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Jack Baillargeron

11:40 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

NL You do know the State has nothing to do with the Indians in SD, like all of them in every State it is the Federal Government buruea of Indian Affairs.

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Naome Lixes

5:50 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

"You do know the State has nothing to do with the Indians in SD..."

For someone that claims to know something about first Nations, your grasp of reality is pretty limp. Just ask your pal Katy how she treats the Indians... g'head.

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katherine

9:34 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

The monument is coming along. Crazy horses face is nearly done, but the horse is barely started.

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Jack Baillargeron

9:44 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Can't wait for it to be completed Kat.

Naome Lixes

7:12 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

The real focus of a government is not just solvency today, but where will you be in seven generations. The current investment status of Rhode Island is positive - students are being prepared for the jobs of tomorrow. Some states seem to think that short-term fixes justify long term neglect of their citizens.

Like South Dakota, for instance.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3825

What appears to be fiscal prudence is just a transfer of expenses, across generations - theft of a child's birthright doesn't meet the smell test for success.

And for all the hue and cry about Rhode Islands mass exodus? 1300 people left the state in 2011. That's nearly half the minority population of Pierre.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9RP4FSG0.htm

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Ted Geisel

8:31 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Naome, Where have you been? I hope you got the flowers. That is an interesting article about the population decrease. It's important to note that the 1300 number is NET population loss. Those who can leave are doing so and there is an influx Latinos according to the article. The article does offer evidence of a mass exodus. The Latino population is up 43.9% since 2000 and yet we still lost people. So a certain segment of our population is leaving.

It's a two part problem, we do need a good education system but we also need to retain the people we have educated because they pay for the next generation to get an education and that is a problem for RI.

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Naome Lixes

5:55 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

"It's a two part problem, we do need a good education system but we also need to retain the people we have educated because they pay for the next generation to get an education and that is a problem for RI."

I'm in complete agreement.

The fact is that America has a growing Spanish-speaking population.
They are the future of industry, research and providing services. Just look at the ranks of our enlisted military....
http://wpsa.research.pdx.edu/meet/2012/gonzalezalfredo.pdf

It's young people leaving Rhode Island that's the problem. When pensioners
are the fastest growing segment of the population, the work has vanished.

There's a misconception that the demographic has rapidly shifted, toward young
Latinos - when in fact it has rapidly shifted to retired white people.

That's the problem - not enough work to keep young people in state.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/44000.html

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Leave RI

8:26 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

"There's a misconception that the demographic has rapidly shifted, toward young
Latinos - when in fact it has rapidly shifted to retired white people."
That's fer sher..Haband just sent me a complimentary pair of salmon colored pants that pull way up to a bad place and white, velcro shoes..can't wait to hit the VFW tonight!

Manifold Witness

9:25 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

RI Job of Tomorrow - Union Cheerleader.

Here are a couple of examples from a History class in a "good district" RI High School -

1. The teacher asks the students if they are going to vote when they get out of prison. The teacher was not joking.

2. The teacher yak, yaks, yaks... about herself.

3. During the recent Presidential election campaign, the teacher didn't mention the first Presidential debate. It was as though the debate didn't happen. The second debate? The teacher showed video clips of Mr. Obama speaking. While the video played, Teacher jumped up & down, clapping & cheering.

The job RI students are being prepared for? Union cheerleader.

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Leave RI

9:41 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

It's sometimes just as hard to vet teachers that act like jackasses just as most public sector, union protected employees are to vet. Teachers in most districts have about a three year "trial period" or probationary period before the district owns them..then their jackass can come out...and not that the reference of the jackass was inferring a political party but I found something else that might show it was. The first video was just a taste of things in that class.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU-4p1VZosM

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Jack Baillargeron

11:41 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

They also forget that Obama was supportive of the firing of 50% of the teachers in Centralfalls to the point of publicly saying it was a good thing. Though in the end it never happened.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

4:27 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

"It's sometimes just as hard to vet teachers that act like jackasses."

Great line - "Jackass" is the symbol for the Democratic Party. . .

Time for some GOP pachyderms to vet the GA in the Ocean State!

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Naome Lixes

5:24 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

You can prove this, with a citation and corroboration, right?

While it may be true, it doesn't pass the smell test.
It sounds a great deal like "Truthiness".

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Leave RI

8:16 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

what? The link didn't work? or not for me..

Tiverton Dad

1:36 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

I agree there's a problem with RI being essentially a single party state. You need differing opinions to provide balance. But here's the real problem. If you put an (R) next to Jay Edwards and a (D) next to Dan Gordon, I'm still voting for Jay Edwards, because he's a good man who cares about his district. There is a shortage of this type of Republican politician in RI. Instead we get Dan Gordon. Until the RI Republican party gets its act together, this will continue to be a one-party state.

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Nelson Aldrich

3:35 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

I see the whole country that way...repubs and dems are just two sides of the same elite coin.They're all millionaires or are about to become one.The only thing they agree on 100% of the time is when to give themselves a raise.

Corporate cash to get elected is another biggie.All this bickering is basically a smokescreen,all they care about are themselves and their corporate donors.Why else do you think all the investment is overseas now?

Jack Baillargeron

2:50 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

I am amazed at how many times we see some posters who think that because you live in a different area of the Town, State or Country, that you have no right to post on local issues. Many people are former residents, who may have relatives, or friends etc., who still live in the area.

Some may have never lived in the area at all. Does that make their ideas or opinions less relevant? Is it not intelligent to have opinions from anyone, so that you may have a full spectrum of any issue? Should a scientist only discuss his theories in his University he attends? It is foolish to assume that because someone is not local, their opinion is invalid and speaks of bigotry.

Don’t know how many times I have heard, well you were not born in Newport, so you are not a Newporter. Moved to Bristol and hear the same thing, that I wasn’t born here so I am not a true Bristolian whatever that is? Do I at times myself pick on an out of towner or State, yep I do make Facetious statements at times in jest.

Merriam/Webster
2: meant to be humorous or funny : not serious <a facetious remark>

Facetious; is one of 3 words with the all the vowels in correct order, though sometimes Y is not there, for those who wish to point that out lol.

In the end, those who do not speak are not heard. I for one would rather hear people then miss out on a good idea that may be able to be used on local problems from another perspective.

One look many of the posts proves this point to me anyway.

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Jack Baillargeron

3:00 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

PS; After all over many decades this State has been in the National News for everything from Corruption, Criminal politicians, Ignorance in public policy and on and on, so I hardly think people outside of this State don't have an opinion on what happens here.

It would be like saying that Newtown can't be commented on by Rhode islanders because it did not happen here. Think about that? Many things that happen in other States affect nation issues, whether a tragedy, Mother Nature, etc.

California has affected more changes across the Country than any other State I believe. Some good, some bad. More bad then good for me though lol.

Least we forget how Rhode Island actually Sstarted the Revolution.

Rhode Island was the first British colony in America to formally declare its independence, doing so on May 4, 1776, a full two months before the national Declaration of Independence.[10] Previously, in 1772 Rhode Islanders attacked the British warship HMS Gaspee as one of the first overt acts of rebellion in America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Rhode_Island

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Naome Lixes

5:33 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Then present the topic genuinely;

Arrogant right-wing blowhard religious freakshow comes to town.
Calling it "Local Voices" strains credulity.

I'm still waiting for the other thirty clowns to hop out of the trunk...

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Jack Baillargeron

6:33 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

NL, you really make me laugh lol.

Now you want to tell the writer, how and what he can write lol.

Ever hear of :Tip O'neil" who said "All Politics are Local" when referring to the so called National Politics of the Congress in Washington?

I find it beyond credulity that you can peruse, this article and all you can come up with is argument about where "Kat Lives" and who should and should not be allowed to post on the patch. Though that is also very amusing lol.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

10:57 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

I think Naomi Lixes needs a cup of cocoa!

"Send in the clowns!"

I would like to see more of the tax and spend clowns leaving the GA in Providence.

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Leave RI

2:46 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Arthur..Naomi sticks with the threads subject most of the time..disagree?then."Leave RI" on patch

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Jack Baillargeron

3:22 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Well Leave RI, its official, HaleBop was what crashed in Russia. No evidence of a Space ship was found lol.

Arthur Christopher Schaper

4:25 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

And Rhode Island can be the seat for a new revolution -- a resurrection of liberty in a country where statist status quo tyranny has taken too much of a hold.

Jack -- contact the RI GOP.

Even if they meet in a phone booth right now, your call and your support can turn the phone both into a town hall into a more responsive and responsible GA.

Thanks again for your insights (and historical points).

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Jack Baillargeron

6:44 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

At some point Artur you have to look at the reality that you cannnot change 78 years of tyranny when the masses have been so brainwashed they cannot see the value of real Government involvement by all views being on the table to be debated.

After half a century of seeing this State get run over again and again with Corruption, fraud, waste and abuse, one has to wonder whats in the water here. lol

The facts sadly are the Facts when it comes to this State, and sadly the fact are the vast majority of the people just don't care or are benefiting through collusion evidently in my opinion. This is from the local level on up in almost all the State.

Naome Lixes

5:43 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Let's get real.

If someone from a Liberal, abolish guns and tax the rich viewpoint stomped in here with their Gucci Loafers on, after cashing the Trust Fund check they would be run out on a rail. It's only the most Conservative voices getting a pass.

This guy is trying to use the Patch to make a National name for himself.

Read some of his other submissions, he derides AA for pity's sake.
I would be VERY interested to hear if Mr. Schaper has any family responsibilities.

This kind of arrogance is rarely spread by peope still raising children.

It's not like Mr. Schaper's generation has managed their own affairs well...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/opinion/keller-the-entitled-generation.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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mike westman

7:39 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Rhode Island does fairly well for having minimal resources.....sort of an overflow for Boston....yes it is corrupt....but it is no more corrupt than any major city (which it sort of resembles).....the phone booth for the gop is small and the only thing that is smaller is their collective ( sorry comrade) brainpower. Any "revolution" fomented in that phone booth will have an effective area the size of Dutch Island.

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Jack Baillargeron

9:03 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Thanks for the belly laugh Mike! "no more corrupt than any major city ", wow you need to read the history of RI over the last 78 years alone. Be sure to check out how many times were are #1 for corruption in the Country and always in the top 5.

For a State as small as this to have more evil than big States with larger populations that drawf RI, show you have no clue on this in this State. The more people in the pot the more change of Corruption. In this State we have made it a past time with less people. That something your proud of? lol

You enjoy living in a State that is ruled like "Cuba" where minority rights are almost non-existent in our State House?

You like living in a State where the politicians think minimum wage jobs are the only answer? Tourism dependency has destroyed this State! The State drove industry out, Companies with high paying jobs, destroyed the Fishing industry long ago all for the one industry that makes it very easy to skim money to the Corrupt system that exist in the State. There is a good reason we are the worst State for business in the nation all the time. It is called 78 years of one party control (DEM) period.

Leave RI

9:00 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

"Any "revolution" fomented in that phone booth will have an effective area the size of Dutch Island"
Yessssss...I love Curacao

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katherine

9:50 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

...Maria asked me to compare and contrast so I did. Now it seems that no one wants to compare and contrast. Be careful what you ask for.

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Naome Lixes

9:49 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

I believe the request was for people that actually live nearby to contribute.

We don't much care what dance you do with tumbleweeds.
Go Wikik aŋ tantanka ptecila, and bring a camera.

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katherine

10:39 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Nope. She specifically asked me.

Maria Cabral

11:00 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Katherine:

Since we are communicating in a medium in which our words are written and saved, it's relatively easy to nail down what I "specifically" asked you:

-- Please, Katherine, tell us the state in which you now live.

So, Miss Nope, please quote from the thread above where you replied to that request with a specific answer of your own.

And, for the record, Miss Nope, none of us really care where you live. We just react, as most humans would, when you hold yourself out to be smarter than the rest of us (e.g., "You are just mad because I was smart enough to get the heck out of there.").

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katherine

11:16 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Maria Cabral
5:19 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Please, Katherine, tell us the state in which you now live. It would be fun to compare and contrast.

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Maria Cabral

12:18 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Very good, Miss Nope. You repeated my request. See? I told you everything everyone has written is here and easy to find. I see you were also able to repeat my observation as to what might be fun after you finally answered the request.

Now please, read this slowly and carefully, one more time:

-- please quote from the thread above where YOU replied to my request with a
-- specific answer of your own.

If that's too much for you, please:

1) Type the one-word sentence "Nope" again,

2) Tell us how much smarter you are than all of us who are irrationally staying here in RI doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, and

3) Resume posting your opinions without reading/absorbing the thoughts of others.

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